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Today's TFA, Felix M. Warburg House, was written by Vami_IV and Epicgenius, introduced: "This article is about another of the great houses that once lined Fifth Avenue in New York. Specifically, this is the mansion of Felix M. Warburg, a Jewish financier who ignored fears of anti-Semitic reprisal to his decided to build himself a big Gothic manor in the middle of New York City. Although the Warburgs no longer remain, their legacy does: the museum is now the home of the Jewish Museum (Manhattan) and the building largely survives as they left it. It's a beautiful building and I hope you will all enjoy it."! - in memory -- Gerda Arendt (talk) 14:11, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

A soprano with leading roles at the opera house of the years 2022 and 2023 (after several others) is notable. Kindly remove that tag. I can add a few sources. I hoped to get a Bach cantata ready for its 300th birthday on Sunday, sigh. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 19:04, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

Typically, the sources which demonstrate notability should be cited in the article, Gerda Arendt, rather than vaguely floating around the internet. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 19:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
... "should be" - yes. I try again: it's not sources what make her notable, but what she does on stage, facts that is. Sorry, I had a busy week, concert, plenty of guests, and on Wikipedia, too many RD articles over several weeks + a weekly Bach cantata that turns 300.
I'll travel all weekend, - there's life. Today, I gave priority to the memory of Vami. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 20:20, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I don't see any significant coverage in there Gerda Arendt, unless I'm missing something. 4meter4, as another opera specialist, what do you think of Magdalena Hinterdobler's notability? ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:08, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I should go to bed because travel will begin extremely early tomorrow, but will add recordings because I feel under pressure. If Leipzig Opera, a public municipal organo zation, says which roles she performed there, they report facts. She sang in a world premiere there. Can we agree so far? --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:19, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Did they provide significant coverage, Gerda Arendt? I wish you the best with your journey. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 21:21, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I will be distracted. I'd travel better if you'd take that tag away at least for the few remaining hours on the Main age. It discredits our content. - First recording added. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 21:37, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Second recording added. There are more. Nite. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:15, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
  • @AirshipJungleman29 It is borderline. She is the main subject of the first cited source which is a print magazine as well as an online one: [1] This is really the only source with significant coverage. I was unable to locate anything else, which is a mark against notability. One thing is for sure, the article uses way too many non-independent sources, which I have pointed out to Gerda at several DYK noms, most recently Template:Did you know nominations/Daniela Kerck. I suggest whenever you see Gerda Arendt using opera company, theatre, or orchestra websites which use PR created non-independent bios (often self written or written by the subject's paid management) that you tag the article as I have done. Using these is unacceptable and a clear violation of WP:BLPSOURCES policy.
That said Hinterdobler is performing lead roles at significant houses. Her performances are getting reviewed routinely, as are her recordings; but I can't say they put much focus on her... She is getting a significant volume of media coverage, but it isn't particularly in-depth. For example The Guardian review of Die Loreley doesn't even mention her other than in the title's list of lead performers even though she is one of the leads... Gramophone mentions her in passing. The Leipzig Ring review lists her in the cast but doesn't have a thing to say about her performances. This review praises her briefly which is sort of typical of what's out there. Here is another example. One could literally dig up dozens of reviews of this type in opera magazines and reviews in local papers where she gets mentioned in passing; usually with a positive mention of her singing or acting. She doesn't get more than a sentence or two though. I think it could go either way at an AFD. I suggest taking it to AFD and seeing what others have to say. My guess is that there is a slightly better chance that it would pass an AFD, as opposed to failing it, given the large number of reviews. I would support deleting the article unless another source is found with in-depth coverage because I think she fails WP:SIGCOV based on the current evidence. 4meter4 (talk) 22:35, 10 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
I have nominated it 4meter4; we'll see how it goes. ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 00:48, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
We'll see. I entered the train after 2 1/2 hours of sleep, and it had no WLAN connection. Very briefly: I am not afraid. I created the article to have Der Traumgörge on the Main page, because some people including 4meter4 prevented that for Liviu Holender, - mission accomplished (and there even was interest). What these two singers perform is note-worthy, whether there are "deep" reports about it or not. (Opera is teamwork. A fair critic can't devote deep coverage to all performers when there are many important roles, as in Meistersinger and Traumgörge.) If a consensus will think differently, I won't care. Holender had his recital, and Hinterdobler will get hers soon (28 May), with a tenor and the music director at the piano. I'm sure she'll receive the coverage you seem to need (and I don't understand why). Now I'll turn to preparing a meal in company, and enjoy the weekend, and better not even think of it. I will not create a new story for today but will leave hers "on". --Gerda Arendt (talk) 08:46, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Like on so many things, it seems that we disagree on how WP should function here as well. Still, you may be right. Enjoy your journey! ~~ AirshipJungleman29 (talk) 11:05, 11 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Doom (2016 video game) - today's TFA is again by Vami --Gerda Arendt (talk) 22:45, 13 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]
Hö'elün - today's TFA is by you, introduced: "I intend to write a series of articles on the leading women of the Mongol Empire. There is no better person to start with than Hö'elün, the mother of Genghis Khan and thus the progenitor of the House of Borjigin. Her life was tumultuous but very interesting. I hope you enjoy."! - I enjoy, the article and the intention. --Gerda Arendt (talk) 07:33, 16 May 2024 (UTC)[reply]

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